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All Forums Rogue Spear Retreat News No Zone Support for Raven Shield
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snicker Administrator USA 2037 Posts	Posted - 07/26/2002 : 09:42:02 AM A Producer's Letter on the Official Raven Shield Site informs us that Ubi Soft will not be supporting Raven Shield on MS's Zone service stating "a number of business and technical reasons". The sole reason most likely being Ubi Softs intention of supporting their Ubi.com player matching service. I was of the impression that since the game is built on the Unreal engine that it would naturally have support for the Zone since it has dedicated servers and web based methods to join a server. If anything, it would seem like they would have to go out of their way to make it not able to work on the Zone which is hardly a technical reason. The post also mentions that RS will feature an in-game server browser as well as a ladder system on Ubi.com complete with statistics and rankings.
LMz_Aj Private 53 Posts	Posted - 07/27/2002 : 09:11:53 AM "The sole reason most likely being Ubi Softs intention of supporting their Ubi.com player matching service." Not sole reason, as is stated, many reasons. "I was of the impression that since the game is built on the Unreal engine that it would naturally have support for the Zone since it has dedicated servers and web based methods to join a server." Nope, the Zone doesn't have technology allowing support of a wide range of games using the standard setup e.g. master server with server log of all servers hosted, like programs in-game browsers , Gamespy 3D, Gamespy Arcade (for some games, Rogue Spear uses its anounce tech) and All Seeing Eye use. It doesn't have gamespy's tech that allows modules to be created very quickly and "plugged" into gamespy arcade. If it has to be supported, Zone has to make a new client, obviously using there basic template, and Ubi has to support Zone (though the Unreal Engine does have features already in place). Ubi.com will most likely have to be redesigned around Raven Shield like Zone will be. "If anything, it would seem like they would have to go out of their way to make it not able to work on the Zone which is hardly a technical reason." Read above, and Zone charges for use of its servers. Though gamespy does charge for Master Server file services, Ubi is using its own server. Gamespy is free for the service Zone offers. Ubi.com will be free too, but obviously Ubi.com has to be paid for.
snicker Administrator USA 2037 Posts	Posted - 07/27/2002 : 09:57:28 AM Thanks for the reply. You brought up some good points. The Zone currently supports Unreal and Unreal Tournament right? My thinking was that if it already supports those, and I am assuming it would be supporting the upcoming Unreal Tournament 2003, then they have pretty much already done the work to get their client to work with it. Sure, it wouldn't pull from the same server master list that Ubi.com does but the Zone has enough people to keep its own lists full. I'm not a Zone supporter nor do I use it but I was just thinking from a technology standpoint it isn't a big deal for Zone support to exist. Wouldn't all the Zone need is the ability to launch a multiplayer game from a command line? I guess there is more to the picture than technology though. If Ubi wants to be anti-Zone, MS may not be interested in even putting support in from a political perspective. --- Aaron "Snicker" Benzick Editor-in-Chief 3d Retreat
LMz_Aj Private 53 Posts	Posted - 07/27/2002 : 10:32:26 AM The zone doesn't support Unreal, Unreal Tournament, Unreal Tournament 2003 AFAIK. I just checked too, no unreal on there page. Unreal Tournament has Gamespy hosting its master server file (for me anyway) for use in there in-game browser + gamespy programs + ASE etc... Yes Zone could support UT, by use of the "unreal://###.###.###.###:####" or "unreal://" + IP + ":" + Port or similar command. This wouldn't allow use of server lists, filters, game info etc... which zone doesn't have anyway, but is there any point of having a service with jack all, where you have 2 others that have all these features + chat and lobbies like zone.

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